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Author Topic: Samsung Evo 860 1TB  (Read 171 times)

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Samsung Evo 860 1TB
« on: December 09, 2018, 08:41:19 am »
Damn, that's a good price. 1TB for $147 and you get free shipping. With Prime. they had the 2.5" on sale for a long time also.

Remember early 90's when 1Gig was a huge deal.


https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-860-SATA-Internal-MZ-N6E1T0BW/dp/B07822Z77M/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1544327864&sr=1-4&keywords=Samsung+ssd+1tb
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Re: Samsung Evo 860 1TB
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2018, 09:04:53 am »
That is a really good price.

I have a question about card formats. This new SSD internal card format... what is this interface called? It's SATA, I see, but it's also socket based rather than cabled. I don't think my mobo has any socket like that, or would it?
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Re: Samsung Evo 860 1TB
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2018, 11:33:31 am »
That is a really good price.

I have a question about card formats. This new SSD internal card format... what is this interface called? It's SATA, I see, but it's also socket based rather than cabled. I don't think my mobo has any socket like that, or would it?

Very unlikely your system has that interface.  There are only a few systems which do.   And they generally don't have the internal room for a standard SSD thus the use of a plugin.   I have one system out of half a dozen which uses that interface.

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Re: Samsung Evo 860 1TB
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2018, 01:29:01 pm »
The SSD module itself is called 2280 (80mm x 22mm) and it comes in two flavors, SATA and the newer, much faster PCIE NVMe.

You got to check what kind your machine supports.

Mine has slots for 4 SSDs: 2 PCIe 2280, 1xSATA 2280 - they look identical but aren't the same - and 1 2.5" SATA.
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Re: Samsung Evo 860 1TB
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2018, 06:59:36 pm »
I don't like its M.2 SATA format. I prefer M2 NVMe which is PCIe or PCI express. It is faster. However, you need to see if your motherboard bios can support it.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2899351/storage/everything-you-need-to-know-about-nvme.html

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Re: Samsung Evo 860 1TB
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2018, 07:07:25 pm »
neat article. the charts are nice but somewhat misleading, I think there is a huge performance gap between HDD and SSD, even the slowest SSD is light years away from HDD. I have both SATA and PCIe and haven't noticed a huge difference between the two.

Your choice of laptop dictates which SSD type you can accept. Of course PCIe is faster. Get it - if your machine has it. If not, it's a waste of funds.
 Mine came with the stupid 1TB HDD that I promptly replaced, the 2.5" format. Interestingly enough, inside the actual 2.5" SATA SSD case, most of it is empty. I think the 2.5" format is obsolete as well.

the other thing to note is, which key your slot is using, B or M.
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Re: Samsung Evo 860 1TB
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2018, 05:08:09 am »
I think there is a huge performance gap between HDD and SSD, even the slowest SSD is light years away from HDD. I have both SATA and PCIe and haven't noticed a huge difference between the two.

I would think the difference in speed is mostly in the seek time. The data can't be read until it's found on the disk. SSDs are 12 times faster on reads then HDDs. If the disk is fragmented the difference will be even more.

That's an excellent article. Thanks for sharing it. It's been a long time since I enjoyed reading about PC hardware.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2018, 05:21:55 am by Phil »

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Re: Samsung Evo 860 1TB
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2018, 07:03:52 am »
Of course, it's totally about seek time, a physical constraint of moving drive heads.

About SSD speed in action:

On my Linux workstation, based on a 9 year old i7-920 Bloomfield based processor, replacing the boot hard drive with an SSD and moving all of the Linux install+applications to it, reserving the HDD for "backing storage" ...

My system boots to the desktop now in about 30 seconds. When I switch boot drives and boot from the previous HDD install, it's more like 3+ minutes, and I see a bunch of splash screens for things like the nVidia drivers that I don't see at all with the SSD boot, because it took so long. Browsers like Chromium used to take 10 sec initially to launch and with the SSD launch in about 3-4 seconds. Almost all Linux disk based applications start instantly - before there was a slight lag of a second even for the shell.

Also launching and closing the Windows 7 virtual machine seems to take about 1/2 the time it did before.

These are the common formerly time consuming actions that now are very fast.

It feels like I did a major upgrade of the CPU and mobo but only the root directory changed to an SSD.
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Re: Samsung Evo 860 1TB
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2018, 10:00:27 am »
Now that consumer prices on SSDs are dropping through the floor, spinning rust devices will join the Dvd, the typerwriter and VHS/BETA tapes.
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Re: Samsung Evo 860 1TB
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2018, 11:54:56 am »
Yes. However, I don't know if I want to keep important data on SSD drive for a long time. Duration is the problem here. How long will the data stay before it disappears?

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Re: Samsung Evo 860 1TB
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2018, 05:43:48 pm »
Supposedly they got much better at it.

I burn all my critical data on Blurays. One can hold 25GB. Think multiple layers of protection.

Nevertheless that is a completely logical question.

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Re: Samsung Evo 860 1TB
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2018, 05:55:59 pm »
Seek time is seek time but SSDs are immune to shock. Drop your laptop on the floor and then you will get to check how good your backups are. The 7200 RPM device cannot withstand such a shock, especially if you drop it at a angle.
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