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Author Topic: New car suggestions  (Read 3042 times)


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Consumer Reports Used Car Buying Kit
« Reply #75 on: August 21, 2007, 04:40:34 am »
I'm a Consumer Reports guy and paid $30 for the Used Car Buying Kit. Among other things, it has a "Find the Right Car" feature (on-line) that allows you search for the car that suits you, by specifying:

1) Make: Toyota, BWM, Lotus, ...
2) Years, price, reliability
3) Body style: sedan, SUV, ...

That led me to the Avalon. Last week, I bought a 2003 XLS with 110K miles for $12K. I love it. I chanced across a model with the rare front bench seat, so in theory I can put seat belts on six passengers (the front-middle person has to be small, but not so small that the airbag is dangerous). The stereo is fabulous. The XLS has some luxury features that are new to me, e.g. two memory settings so you push a button and it adjusts the seat and the outside mirrors the way you like them. It's a kind of Lexus-lite.

I was a college drop-out in 1972 when I heard that Ford was hiring. I spent the next 2.5 years painting truck grills in the world's largest plastics injection plant, saving enough money to pay for my final two years of college. So I was a loyal Ford buyer for a while. The Taurus wagon is the best value on the market, measured as $/seat, in my opinion.

This time I went for reliability, though. The Consumer Reports reliability ratings for the Avalon are 80% solid red, 20% half-red, ZERO solid whites (or lower) - incredible.

The 3-series BMW has average (solid white) predicted reliability except for the half-red '05. The 5-series is half-red for '01 and '02, half-black (bad!) for '05 and '06, and otherwise average.

The one that amazes me is Mercedes. LOTS of black. They're very expensive POS's, if CU's data is accurate.

HTH - Hoytster


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Avalon with 110k miles
« Reply #76 on: August 22, 2007, 06:21:05 am »
Thats a lot of clams to pay for any car with that many miles. Hope it  is good to you.

I bought my BMW with 45k miles for less money.


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Re: Avalon with 110k miles
« Reply #77 on: August 22, 2007, 09:47:21 am »
I agree, 110K miles is a lot. I don't know why, but even with that mileage, the Edmunds price was about $15K, so it feels like a bargain.

Through chance, about an hour after I put down the deposit for the Avalon, I came out of a restaurant as a guy and his family were getting into their Avalon. He turned out to be a dealer, driving his second Avalon. He's a fan, obviously. He assured me that, with regular oil changes (etc), I could expect to get 200,000 miles out of the car.

Consumers Reports has reviewed the BWM 5-series as the finest automobile it has ever tested, within the last few years. Their repair record is mediocre. I've always heard that they're crappy in snow. True?

I'm not a BMW guy. How well it handles in the twisties is my least concern. The Avalon's key features, for me, are (1) outstanding reliability, (2) seats six (with the rare front bench, which is no longer offered), and (3) has a fabulous JBL stereo - sounds great!

What BMW did you get for how much?

- Hoytster

Jeremy Singer

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Re: New car suggestions
« Reply #78 on: August 23, 2007, 02:02:38 am »
I really like Dodge Caravan.
Comfortable, reliable, convenient.
Good for hauling things, too if you don't have a truck.
I think that counts as an American car (at least it used to be.)


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Re: New car suggestions
« Reply #79 on: August 23, 2007, 02:35:52 am »
My wife drives a Caravan. I think it's great! Nice power, pleasant to drive, incredibly versatile. I couldn't have bought the Avalon if she didn't have the Caravan to move the six of us en masse, and to transport large packages.

- Hoytster


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BMW 328is coupe
« Reply #80 on: August 23, 2007, 06:57:40 pm »
I bought my 1996 BMW 328is coupe about 4 years ago for 13k with 54k miles. Other than basic maintenance it has been fun and practical car and pretty reliable.

I do want a fun sports car in a few years- maybe that Lotus Elise or a Porsche Cayman S or if I want a convertible maybe an Audi TT. All are fun cars. The Audi TT has best interior for a sports car but the Elise is fun!!!


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How much are u asking 4 Saab 900?
« Reply #81 on: August 24, 2007, 02:44:46 pm »


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Re: How much are u asking 4 Saab 900?
« Reply #82 on: August 24, 2007, 02:55:13 pm »
Since my nephew isn't interested I'll be keeping it, but the Blue Book value is about $5200.


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« Reply #83 on: September 04, 2007, 06:10:04 pm »
Brawndo. It's got what plants crave.